Elusive Lucidity

Elusive Lucidity2021-05-05T10:47:04-05:00
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Hello, I began researching and experimenting with Lucid Dreaming 11 years ago.  I have read more books than I can remember on the topic over the years.  I have also at times isolated and experimented with all types of techniques to include WILD, MILD, DILD, WBTB etc.  I have also engaged in long term dream journals, dream sign identification, lucidity tests regularly.  I have 11 years of active engagement on the matter; resulting in 2 false awakenings (one of them, sleep paralysis with an appearance of a mysterious stranger) 9 years ago and 1 momentary moment of lucidity in a dream about 6 years ago.  YES, THAT IS MY TRACK RECORD after 11 years of active engagement.  I am not sure what I am doing wrong as I have read nearly everything published out there on the matter and more.  I am also not sure who would even be able to begin to offer me any insight on this epic state of constant perplexity.  I feel very alone but I continue on because I am drawn to the esoteric nature of lucidity.  I have grown tired now after over a decade with no success.  I am…perplexed.  You name the book, I have read it.  You name the techniques, I have committed to them already.  I am not getting younger, wink.  Any advice?

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Robert Waggoner Changed status to publish May 5, 2021
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Hi Ryan,

I appreciate your persistence.

In my online workshops, I have worked with people who have never had lucid dreams — and then they report having a lucid dream.  However, not everyone does, and here you can see a long list of why they do not:

  1. Poor dream recall.  Or a personal history of nightmares (so who wants to become lucid in a realm of nightmares).
  2. A fear (known or unknown) of lucid dreaming or some aspect of it (e.g., sleep paralysis, OBEs, etc.).  Sometimes people with strong egos ‘fear’ the subconscious and unconscious mind — and do their best to ignore it!
  3. A philosophical belief that dreams should not be tampered with
  4. Poorly conceived lucid dream induction practices (which take a long, long time to become fruitful)
  5. Lack of goals (You ask them, “What would you do if you became lucid tonight?” and they stare at you blankly….  If a person has no goals or has no direction, then they seem likely to achieve nothing and go nowhere.  They have no ‘reason’ to lucid dream….)
  6. They’ve picked up limiting and non-helpful beliefs (e.g., too hard, only lasts ten seconds) — and their lucid dreams (or dreaming) reflects those limiting and non-helpful beliefs back to them
  7. No sense of “play” — when it becomes ‘work’, it seems three times harder.  A child will take the induction ideas and play with them, and in a few days report a lucid dream of talking to a dolphin.  A serious person will take the same ideas, and evaluate them, analyze them, and more (and often remove all the joy and adventure from it).
  8. It might not be your path.  Or you have a habit that gets in the way (smoking before sleep, drinking before sleep, etc.)

So there you have it.

What I see from my online workshops — Some people ‘pick up’ the emotional energy of the group, and then have a lucid dream!  Yay!

Others get competitive, and can’t do it — then the workshop ends and they write me to tell me, “I just had a lucid dream!” which suggests that their competitive spirit made them try to hard and that got in the way.  When they ‘relaxed’, it happened.

I recall one woman complained about not having lucid dreams, and I asked her, “Tell me your pre-sleep ritual?”  She responded that she took off her make-up, used the toilet and then took her sleeping pills.  I said, “You’re taking sleeping pills!??”  Following her doctor’s advice, she got off of sleeping pills and became a good lucid dreamer.

Lucid wishes on your journey of awareness!

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Robert Waggoner Answered question May 5, 2021
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